: “Of course I did… it was just a means for the fake to keep you under surveillance.” You’re telling me the Demiurge trained Joker as an insurance policy… against what!? If anything, that statement only makes sense if you assume someone ELSE trained Joker! Fuck! Now that I think back to when I was separated, I felt a disagreement to the word ‘rehabilitation’.” : “This was likely its means to nip in the bud anything that would pose a threat. : WHY!? That doesn’t make any fucking sense! None of this makes any fucking sense! The Demiurge’s entire plan is to not honor the bet! Did it even train Akechi? I’m guessing it didn’t… or maybe it did, given how incompetent it seems to be. It helped train the Trickster, only to cast him into despair, using the masses who rejected their savior.” : “And Akira Kurusu had great potential… which is why it approached him. : But that makes even less sense! The whole point of Nyarlathotep’s bet in Innocent Sin was that he knew he could break the rules as much as he wanted and Philemon would still honor the bet!
#Persona 5 night chimera full
: And this is Hashino’s weak-ass reason for the Demiurge not simply going full on YHVH immediately - she’s talking about Philemon… which would also make this a direct ripoff of Innocent Sin. But that evil entity laughed at the prospect, and sought to prove the powerlessness of man with the game.” : “He believed that a Trickster would rise among the people and accomplish this change. However, my true master believed in humanity.” After all, it is the masses’ distorted desires incarnate. : “That malevolent being knew that a revolution would not occur within indolent humans. It doesn’t work at all if the bet was pointless to begin with!
: This plot point worked in Persona 4 specifically because Izanami intended to honor the bet. The quote is: “If my intention was to not honor the bet, why would I have made the bet in the first place!?” : Right here, I’d like to paraphrase a quote from Mahjong Legend Akagi. : “If Akira won, the human world would be left as is… those were the conditions of the game - at least, that’s what should’ve happened.” This is what happens when you take a creatively bankrupt fuckhead like Hashino and put him in charge of fucking anything! : Fuck this shit! This is word for fucking word the plot to Persona 4. : “The other was a Trickster who would stand up against this… that was Akira Kurusu.” Had he won, the world would have been destroyed and remade.” One - Goro Akechi - incited the masses’ distortion. To decide the fate of the world, it chose two people and pitted them against each other. : “Then… did the Treasure become a god because people wished to be ruled over?” As the distorted desires of the masses, it is most certainly the core of Mementos itself.” The Holy Grail is… a ‘god’? I was wondering why it had a will of its own, but are you implying that it isn’t a Treasure?” : “Be quiet and listen! We don’t have much time left!” : “I…um…don’t get what you’re sayin’ at all-” : “…That is the ruin of man that this evil god envisions.” That’s exactly what the Millennium Kingdom is. It hopes to attain eternal peace by filling reality with those who have stopped thinking for themselves.” : “The entity that calls itself a god is a malevolent will that forces man into everlasting servitude.
: Yes, this technically makes Morgana a servant of Philemon by proxy. …He mustered up his remaining strength to make me.” When this place was about to be taken over, my master gathered the last traces of mankind’s hope. That’s why I was created here by my master.” : “My role was to find the Trickster and help him defeat it. It was to dispel an evil being from man’s spiritual world…” The only place he could hide in there is in the toilet, so… You can go right past this cell while running around looking for the party, and you won’t see Morgana there. The thing is, with Persona 4 it wasn’t clear that Izanami planned to kill everyone - she basically only gave a shit about watching two proxy versions of her husband kill each other for her amusement. : Now, I’m not going to say that Persona 4 didn’t have the same problem, because it absolutely did. You need a Philemon or a Lucifer (or a Dagda) to give your Nyarlathotep or YHVH a reason they can’t immediately proceed to “raise Xibalba and kill everyone” or “kill everyone and bring in the Millennium Kingdom”. : The thing is, when your plot revolves around gods betting on humanity’s destruction, you kind of need gods. : In case you’re wondering, yes, this is another Innocent Sin “god betting on whether humanity will destroy itself” plot… except in this case, it’s Yaldabaoth betting against itself. : Fuck you, Hashino! Fuck you! You’ve used this fucking plot three fucking times now! Three! Stop fucking stealing from Satomi Tadashi and write a fucking plot! My experiment has come to naught… everything is over.
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